Yamatji Navy Veteran Puts One Nation's Rod Caddies on the Spot Over Native Title and Regional Services
Tamati Alexander Smith21 March 2026 · 21 min read
Two questions expose evasions and contradictions at Durack branch launch in Geraldton
Geraldton, 21 March 2026
A former Royal Australian Navy sailor and Yamatji man used two carefully constructed questions to expose inconsistencies in One Nation WA State Leader Rod Caddies' position on Indigenous land rights and regional service delivery at the party's Durack branch launch in Geraldton on Saturday.
Tamati, who served seven years in the Navy as a communicator and identifies as a Yamatji man from the Mid West, posed back-to-back questions at the Geraldton Golf Club forum that left Caddies unable to articulate a clear position on Native Title and inadvertently endorsing the expansion of an Aboriginal community service model. The questions drew hostile reactions from multiple audience members — but also drew out answers the party may not have intended to give.
Hon. Rod Caddies MLC and Senator Tyron Whitten were the guest speakers at the event, which was called to formally establish the Durack branch committee ahead of upcoming state and federal elections.
Question One: Where Do You Stand on Native Title?
The first exchange centred on established Native Title determinations for the Yamatji and Wajarri peoples across the Murchison region. Tamati asked Caddies directly whether One Nation would consider overturning those determinations if the party came to power.
"My question is on Indigenous land rights and Native Title," Tamati said. "I was a bit curious about determinations that have already been established — I'm talking more about out there in the Murchison, that area for the Yamatji Murchison people, for the Wajarri Murchison."
Caddies deflected, claiming the matter was outside state jurisdiction.
"That would be a federal thing. I don't think Tyron could even comment on that because that is something as a policy," Caddies said. "You're asking about future policy — that would have to be brought together between the people on what they think. That's a policy issue, so I can't — that would only be my opinion as a person, not as One Nation."
Tamati then highlighted a contradiction. Earlier in the forum, Caddies had been willing to comment on fuel prices — also a matter with significant federal dimensions — but refused to engage on Native Title.
"You mentioned earlier about the fuel crisis being a federal issue when it should be a West Australian issue, and you were happy to comment on that, but you're not happy to comment on this," Tamati said.
Caddies attempted to draw a distinction: "At state level, we don't have control over what you're talking about. At the state level, we do have control over the fuel."
The question was left unanswered.
After Tamati thanked Caddies for his response, multiple audience members directed abuse at him. Audio recorded at the forum captures voices from the crowd calling his question "a racist question" and telling him to "fuck off."
The forum moderator intervened, defending the exchange as legitimate democratic discourse.
"This is what we should have — open debate in this country, and be able to talk about it," the moderator said. "Whether it be LGBTQ, whether it be Islam — we should be able to openly talk as Australians and at the end of it, people get to decide."
Question Two: Short-Stay Accommodation for All
Tamati's second question shifted terrain — but carried the same strategic precision.
Referencing the Bundiyarra Aboriginal short-stay accommodation in Geraldton, Tamati noted that friends who support One Nation had acknowledged it as a positive initiative. He then asked whether the party would support establishing similar accommodation in regional towns for all Australians — Indigenous and non-Indigenous — who travel from remote communities to access medical services.
"Is this something that youse would look at establishing in regional towns for people that live even further out to come into town to seek medical attention, have accommodation, and then be able to return — just as we have the Aboriginal short-term accommodation here in Geraldton?" he asked.
Caddies embraced the idea, pointing to the Royalties for Regions program as a potential funding source and accusing the Labor government of stripping funds for other purposes.
"We get a lot of money out of these regions. Durack and O'Connor produce pretty much most of the income out of this country," Caddies said. "The amount of money that's there alone in the Royalties for Regions should be funding them things."
Caddies then moved to a familiar One Nation refrain on race-blind policy: "One Nation believes in one nation. We don't care about the colour of your skin, where you're from. You should all be treated equally. It doesn't matter about whether you're Indigenous, whether you're whatever country you're from, what colour your skin — it's about if you're an Australian who needs something, then your government should be looking after you as a citizen of this country."
Caddies on Youth Crime: "Sentencing Is Not the Answer"
In response to a separate audience question on mandatory sentencing for repeat offenders, Caddies broke from what might be expected of a One Nation representative and spoke at length against punitive approaches to youth crime.
Drawing on his 15 years working in child protection and detention centres, Caddies argued for justice reinvestment over harsher penalties.
"I don't think sentencing is the answer myself, personally. I believe in justice reinvestment and social reinvestment," he said.
He described his own upbringing — growing up with a single mother of seven children, time spent in group homes and government care — and said mentoring programs and addressing root causes were more effective than locking young people up.
"It costs us a million dollars a year to hold a juvenile in a detention centre each year," Caddies said. "Imagine if we said, okay, let's allocate $500,000 for these kids — let's employ someone full-time to work with them, take them out to do fun things. You actually will change that young life into maybe being a better adult moving into the future."
He acknowledged the political difficulty of such an approach: "What you'll get is dishonest politicians who just want to attack the opposition. As soon as you put money into something to try to fix it, they'll attack."
Reading Between the Lines
Taken together, the exchanges reveal a deliberate approach by the questioner — and unscripted honesty from the candidate.
In the first question, Tamati forced Caddies into an evasion that spoke louder than any direct answer. One Nation's base has historically been hostile to Native Title, yet Caddies could not afford to say openly that the party would seek to dismantle determinations that protect the rights of First Nations peoples in the region. The refusal to answer — and the exposed inconsistency with the fuel comments — left the party's position transparent through its absence. That multiple audience members responded to a straightforward question about land rights with abuse underlined the tension Caddies was trying to navigate.
In the second question, Tamati reframed an Aboriginal community service as a model worth replicating for all Australians. In doing so, he led Caddies into publicly validating an Indigenous initiative — the Bundiyarra short-stay accommodation — as a benchmark for regional service delivery. The party's "one nation, one people" rhetoric was turned back on itself: if everyone should be treated equally, then the Aboriginal model is the standard to aspire to.
On youth crime, Caddies departed from the tough-on-crime positioning often associated with One Nation and instead advocated for the kind of social reinvestment typically championed by progressive policy voices. His personal background — group homes, government care, a single mother — lent the remarks an authenticity that set them apart from standard political talking points.
Tamati established his own credentials in ways that made dismissal difficult. He identified as a Navy communicator with seven years' service, a Yamatji man from the Mid West, and someone with friends who support One Nation. He was not an outsider, not hostile, and not easily categorised — which made his questions all the more difficult to deflect, and the audience's hostility all the more conspicuous.
What went unspoken was that the most pointed things said at the forum were in the questions — not the answers.
The Durack One Nation Branch Launch was held at Geraldton Golf Club on 21 March 2026. Hon. Rod Caddies MLC is One Nation's WA State Leader and a member of the Western Australian Legislative Council. Senator Tyron Whitten represents Western Australia in the federal Senate. The Yamatji Nation Native Title determination, one of the largest in Australian history, was registered by the Federal Court and covers significant areas of the Murchison and Gascoyne regions of Western Australia. The Bundiyarra Aboriginal Corporation operates short-stay accommodation and other services for Aboriginal people visiting Geraldton from surrounding communities.
Disclosure: This article was prepared with the assistance of Claude Code, an AI tool by Anthropic. The reporting, questions, audio recordings and source material are entirely the work of the author. Claude Code assisted with structuring, drafting and publishing the article.
Forum Audio Recordings
Audio recorded at the Durack One Nation Branch Launch, Geraldton Golf Club, 21 March 2026. Click any line in the transcript to jump to that point.
Recording 1: Native Title Question
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0:00My question is on indigenous land rights and native title. I was a bit curious about0:06determinations that have already been established and like you know...0:11I'm talking more about the out there in Mullerwall in that area for the0:14Yamagee Mullerwall people, for the Wadriem Mullerwall. I'm not aware of it but oh yeah0:18I think it's the best I can because I'm not aware of that. So I just wanted to get your thoughts on that there if there was like you know0:23to ever come in like you know political power towards to go towards one nation0:26would you ever consider overturning those native title determinations?0:32Well I think one thing I can't really comment to a certain extent because that is a0:36that would be a federal thing I don't even tie and could even comment on that0:40because that is something as a policy. You're asking about future policy that0:45would have to be brought together between to the people on what they think you0:51know we that's a policy issue so I can answer you on something that I can answer0:55right now but that is a policy thing so I can't that would only be my opinion as1:01a person not as a as one nation so. So second to that there you mentioned1:05earlier about the fuel crisis being a federal issue when it should be a1:09West Australian issue and you were happy to comment on that but you're not happy1:12to comment on this. Well it is not that's different because also we still need to1:17like we still need to have state and federal laws we don't have state level we1:24do have control over the fuel. Okay yeah thank you very much. Thank you very much.1:28You should be a racist question yet. We had a fuck off. Perfect. Oh now that's cool.1:34No this is what this is what we should have. I hope the debate in this country1:38will be able to talk about it and I think whether it be LGBTQ whether it be1:42Islam it would we should be able to openly talk as Australians and at the end1:47of it people get to the side and well we may not agree again or we may have1:52some of the commits us or we can be spent. That's what would the bite of this country1:56should be seen as even and we've got to speak about it.
Recording 2: Youth Crime & Sentencing Discussion
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0:00So many harms are committed that actually get like what we would call a subconscious0:05on the wrist and set harm.0:09And these are causing just the crimes just to repeat it.0:15It's just over and over and over.0:18When we're required about why these people are being sentenced to jail, sentences or0:25whatever, we then get time out of this.0:28So really, Jack, or I could go on and on and on, but I think you all know exactly what0:34I'm talking about.0:36Is there any policy looking toward policy or do you know of where, for example, for certain0:46crimes that mandatory sentences can be enforced or brought into play, I should say, so that0:54there won't be so much recidivism, there won't be so much not getting punished.1:02In the long term, that is one of the really serious problems in regional Australia, our1:10regional Western Australia particularly, I know using other states as well in territories1:17but we don't at the moment, I'm worried about here.1:21Can you give me any dissatisfaction of those lines?1:27Thank you.1:34Okay, yeah, well, there's been a lot of debate over many years about sentencing and all that1:40with, especially when it comes to juvenile crime.1:44And that's really what we're talking mostly about a lot of the time, is the juvenile crime1:48and their acidity rates and that I think it's like 70% of the time, 70% of the crimes1:56committed are by the same young people committing the crime.2:00So the crime is actually, I don't think sentencing is the answer myself personally.2:07I believe in justice reinvestment and social reinvestment.2:12So I volunteered all that through the Indigenous communities, I worked in child protection2:17for 15 years, I worked in the detention centres, I started off with the detention centres2:21and went out into child protection, my passion is youth.2:24So I believe I had a mentor and a program in place for young people and I proved to myself.2:30And the same is you've worked in South Wales, they had a real problem and mainly it was2:34the Indigenous space for the improvement by justice reinvestment.2:39So investing money in mentors and sometimes, but the problem is we'll have the opposition2:45attack, whoever's in the government, so they'll attack, if you put money into the core2:49root of the problem and the core root is a lot of the time drugs, alcohol and there's2:55breakdown in family, breakdowns in families at home.3:00One of these young people go out to meet crime, they don't want to go home and it's not3:03because of, I mean, I grew up in my younger years, I was even down at group homes, so I3:10didn't want to say that out.3:11So I grew up in a single number of seven kids, I got a bit of trouble when I was a young3:15girl, in their group loan, who's got no care.3:19I was involved in that stuff, but you know what fixed me was once I had a decent one out3:24of a set father and then I was able to do things.3:27So I think the answer to that fixed in crime isn't about putting mandatory sentences into3:31place, it isn't about censoring young people to walk.3:34It's helping these young people, especially all this Indigenous crime up through the3:38north, I believe if we put enough money into the right places and put mentors in place,3:44talking to do fun things, it was a lot of people like myself didn't like school, I hated3:49it, I still ain't got to be in year 12, but if we put more money to the root causes of3:54the problems and helped it down here before we had done that problem, we wouldn't be filling4:00our prisons.4:01It cost us a million dollars a year to hold a juvenile in a detention center each year.4:06Way, way, way more, it's like a hundred million dollars a month, pretty small, well,4:11still small but it's small, apparently, for an adult.4:14But to put a juvenile, it's a million dollars a year.4:16Well, imagine if we said, okay, when we know we've got 70% of the kids committing these4:21crimes together, let's allocate $500,000 for these kids that are, it's in that vicinity4:26stuff that the young backwards and forwards, let's go let's spend 500,000 extra,4:31let's employ some of the pool time to work with them, take them out to do fun things,4:36and I know you might say it's rewarding crime, rewarding bad behavior, but living the way4:42I live, I've had workers which I've been taking for 15 years, seeing these kids that I've4:47seen that were going out saying, I would get this by solely shoes, stole a fine, brought4:51at home every day, soon as we had these mentors in places, they're about to be in crime4:55where it was taking up their police time, court time, making their lives terrible, because5:00it doesn't make them a great number of community.5:02The answer is, let's spend 500,000 dollars that million dollars, employ some of the pool time,5:07take them out here, and let's say, back there I don't think, and you actually will change5:12that young line into maybe being a better adult, living into the future, and I think we'll5:17say that sounds a lot of money, and community be better off.5:20But what you'll get is dishonest politicians who just want to attack the opposition for5:26something.5:26So they go, as soon as you put money into something to try to fix it, they'll attack them5:32because they're going, why you spend that money out of the budget on, and that's the5:36problem that the decisions have like, for me, that would be the policy I would love to5:41see more money going into call routes like parenting, a lot of people, as parents, we are5:48all perfect when we start, so there's a lot of people that can be better parents than5:51not bad people.5:52They just need these people to get into these situations if they have their systems they5:57need, the true quality assistance to stop happening to begin with.6:01So that's my thought on anyone in the park, and the policies are there.6:37Okay, so I've just, I'll talk about it because they already have built their things, but6:41the problem is they'll never work because the way they set them up and how they direct6:48them, it's like a people commit crime, you get to choose their or do this and all that,6:52it can't be, but what we're going to go wrong is we look for punishment and set of consequences.6:59Anyone who needs honesty should be parenting, and you know, it's sort of like, I know what7:04it's saying about the camps, but they've tried to create them over years but they just7:09don't work because the setting isn't right.7:11It's not, it doesn't.7:13When they come there, when you force to go into a program, it never works.7:20It has to be by choice, it has to be, you know, and the mentoring or leasing do work because7:25they're not feeling like they're being forced to go somewhere and be engaged and something7:29because it's already that negative mindset, and that's the problem.7:33I'm not saying that it's not a good idea, this camp, but if those camps will just be7:36a, we have the mentors in place where they were funded, where that could be somewhere7:40where they could take them to learn the fixed codecarts and write some codecarts, tracks7:45and all that, that would work, but not setting people to a camp as a, as a trying to help7:51them.7:52It's like, can't put money into somewhere where you could actually have that option7:56as a mentor saying, well, here's a program that we can, it's free for you to go access8:01to bring your young person to, to engage them and teach them mechanics and teach them8:08skills, because once people start to feel they're, they've worked something in life, they8:12get experience understanding, it helps them to work.8:16There's a lot of evidence in all that.8:17It's just that our government's doing, implement that thing, so they don't do what's right8:22from the beginning.8:23So anyway.8:24Thank you.8:25I almost feel like the, this side of government won't be chaos, to be honest.8:31Thank you.8:33Thank you.8:36Thank you.8:36Thanks a lot.8:37I don't know.8:37I hear you say all the wrong you've done military service.8:41Thank you for your service too.8:42I too pro-wrested on my left wagon in the 90s.8:47Now, what those people were saying was very similar to my question, they sort of stole8:52my thunder.8:53I was working at hospitality years, 20 or 20 years ago, and most of them talking to me,8:58saying, I hear you now, and I said, well, why don't they introduce national service again9:05because it's a win-win situation.9:07You work people with, you learn discipline, they learn respect, not scale, and all this,9:12and anyone that doesn't want to apply the game will end up in holes worthy for their9:1612 months, right?9:17The only middle, not middle, eastern, the Nordic country that is saying that even from the9:24Asian countries, I can't name you up to top my egg.9:2712 months, yeah, they do 12 months national service, right?9:30That's spicy, right?9:31And he's been 12 months in the military as a minimum.9:34That Wilson just snuck there off and said, oh, now the government doesn't want to get involved9:38in that.9:39That is half the problem.9:40If you could teach these people, bit of discipline, respect, and then you've got a ready9:46made force as well because Australia is a little dark in the ocean.9:50What chance have we got it to try on these cameras?9:52What are we going to throw on rocks?9:54Thanks to the problem, they've taken all their bloody rock, we're going to have weapons away from us.9:59So that really brings to just national service otherwise Australia is just going to be10:05a pacifier.10:08That's a question, sorry, yeah, sorry, that's not the thing.10:10The question is, are they ever going to consider introducing national service10:15as a minimum 12 months national service?10:26That's a big policy thing that we can agree, disagree, I've been getting to a big conversation10:32about that because I've sort of got the same thoughts in some ways, but there are legumes10:36and positives in all this and it's probably not something for this being we can talk about10:40and it's more a policy thing if you better address things that that's a huge, you know,10:46like it's not going to challenge people's life, it's not going to make your child have a house10:49an ability to get a mortgage coming up.10:52So for me, it's really important we concentrate on cost, you know, like how your life's going to be better.10:58Tomorrow, your children's life is going to be better moving forward.11:01So yeah, there's a gentleman here to see.
Recording 3: Short-Stay Accommodation Question
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0:01So I wanted to answer questions about DVA and it seems like there are a few0:05veterans in here like myself. I just wanted to give a bit of background. I served0:09seven years in the Royal Australian Navy as a communicator and it seems like0:13there is a bit of support about their DVA question I wanted to ask. I won't0:16follow on with that one but I also am a young man here from the Midwest and I do0:20have some friends who do support although I will admit I don't. One nation and0:27the discussion we were having last night was about the Bundy Ares Aboriginal0:30Shorts Day accommodation. Now he had said that this was a something that he had0:37supported. Yes it was a great idea but it is also needed for non-indigenous0:41Australians as well. So the question is is this something that used would look0:48at establishing in regional towns for people that live even further out to0:53come into town to seek medical attention, have accommodation and then be able0:57to return just as we have the Aboriginal short term accommodation here in1:01Jelton. Thanks mate. Do you know what there's going to be two parts I'll say to1:16this. One we should we get a lot of money out of these regions. Jurek and I1:21kind of produce pretty much most of the income out of this country so regional1:27areas that you know they have a good idea back in the day from the1:31nationals with the Royalty's for regions which by the way labor of strick out1:35and they're using for things they shouldn't be. So the amount of money that's1:40there aligned in the Royalty's for regions should be funding everything. They1:43should definitely be funding things where people like we heard from even in1:48Maryland happen to go approaching. We should there's so much money in this1:52government that is wasted and we could go through all that but definitely over1:57if that secondly one nation as much as people like to point and talk about2:02racism and all this rubbish. I believe one nation believes in one nation we2:07don't care about the color of skin where you're from. You should be all retreated2:11equally back from me. It's about the image so you need somewhere to come and say2:16in a town where you're from a town you know a community or a town it doesn't2:20matter about when you're indigenous whether you're whatever country you're from2:23what color your skin doesn't matter it's about me. It's about if you're2:27Australian who need something then your government should be looking after you2:31as a citizen of this country or this town.2:37And like in fact your act is one of them producers a lot of income. Weat2:41there's so much money that your town of Geraldton or any other town up here2:45should not be lacking. It produces a lot of money up through this you know2:49northwest stretch that this government is very city-fighters. Oh so I'll give2:54an example of that. I pulled my office in Bumbry. I didn't perv. I traveled down2:58a Bumbry because they took away everyone that's not aware. You used that the3:03upper-house seats used to be cordoned off into six seats. There was 363:09members and six regions. One was the agricultural region which this was in3:13capturators. So six members would have specifically represented your area plus3:18your local member. They got rid of all that because the government decided3:22maybe don't do well very you know I think they got elected here in Geraldton3:27before but typically anywhere outside of the out of Metro to the region3:31areas maybe don't do well. So they decided we'll get rid of the regions and now3:36we're a member of Western Australia and up to this region. I'm a member for all3:41Western Australia. Every member of the bill elected now. Where's the population?3:45It's only perv is very and so where's the body? So they don't care about you3:49guys anymore but I do. I still travel and I can say I look out for3:54Bumbry because at least it was still we only got two members so we you know3:58you put a certain amount of officers but to and I the media interviewed me and I4:03said why did you put your office in Bumbry and I said well I refuse to take4:07it lying down. The labor are going to take away regional representation and4:12it's still regional so at least it took it out there so yeah it's we should be4:17looking out for the regions.
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